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Geoghs
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May 10, 2024 1:55PM edited May 10
Well the current Challenge is a big FU to the player base - lol. At least we can get 2 Omicrons.
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Azrul
68 posts Member
May 10, 2024 2:07PM
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Well played CG
order 66 41st division lead. European reset
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LordDirt
5054 posts Member
May 10, 2024 2:16PM
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Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
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herd_nerfer
1970 posts Member
May 10, 2024 2:21PM
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Geoghs wrote: »
Well the current Challenge is a big FU to the player base - lol. At least we can get 2 Omicrons.
The actual numbers:
You have to turn off the 'Top 100 Guilds' filter.
You can still get the T8 crate without the Gungans, so still get the 2 omis.
All that being said, I'm not wild about this - but at least omi income isn't directly affected which is surely what most of us are worried about, right?
I think it's less of an FU to the player base and more like throwing a bone to the folks that went out of their way (and let's be real - out of their pocket in most cases) to get JarJar right away. I'd be a lot more annoyed if this locked us out of the omis.
F2P since the last time I bought Kyros, Crystals, or the Conquest Pass.
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CrispyFett
987 posts Member
May 10, 2024 2:24PM
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Not really a surprise.. Would have been nice if it scaled (so for tier vi only need 4 gungans, but for tier X need 5), but as others said, I'll get my 2 omis and move on
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FelNaver75
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May 10, 2024 2:24PM edited May 10
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Nah, banning us from Red Crate if we do not have the newest shiny costly thing has happened before. Now a vast majority of players is banned from the top two crates, which is a new low from CG...
This on top of giving an exclusive Datacron to Padawan Obi Whales...1
Mahl_Jhong_501st
37 posts Member
May 10, 2024 2:25PM
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Not surprising at all considering they have a GC Omi.
Co-GL, Empire's 501st
StewartH
156 posts Member
May 10, 2024 2:31PM
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Mahl_Jhong_501st wrote: »
Not surprising at all considering they have a GC Omi.
Doesn't this defeat the purpose of the Gungan Omi? If I could *theoretically* apply the Gungan omi and get red box using my 4 Gungans (because I dont have JarJar) it may be worth it. This effectively gates all but the highest spenders from even considering this Omi...which again defeats the purpose.
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May 10, 2024 2:33PM
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LordDirt wrote: »
Yes first time, I don't remember a similar character wall (es. last one, Mandalorian, was only 4). Not fun at all, but more time for other games.
WhatTheFoxSWGOH
31 posts Member
May 10, 2024 2:43PM
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It's a new low even for CG. In the past they would require 4 characters but this shuts out the majority of their player base. It's not a good look and feels wrong in multiple ways, does not set a good precedent.
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ccabezas93
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May 10, 2024 3:48PM
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LastNeuron wrote: »
LordDirt wrote: »
Yes first time, I don't remember a similar character wall (es. last one, Mandalorian, was only 4). Not fun at all, but more time for other games.
When BAM appeared in the game, it was requested to be in a team as a feat on several occasions, I think the characters to get it were not yet farmeable. It hurted more when additionally they asked for full jawas or full ewoks.
PtmLords
62 posts Member
May 10, 2024 3:51PM
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I just started spending money on the game again but this really discourages me now.
rickertron
340 posts Member
May 10, 2024 3:52PM
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Meh. I see it no different than any other GC that I don't have the required characters to get red crate. I just go get my T7 or T8 crate. For me at least, not being able to red crate a GC once in a while has virtually no impact on my game.
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LordDirt
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May 10, 2024 4:06PM
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PtmLords wrote: »
I just started spending money on the game again but this really discourages me now.
Why? I never understand how people expect to be able to do everything in this game the second it drops.
Why wasn't Cobb Vanth shards a reward for the Krayt Dragon raid? Why wasn't Endor Gear Luke shards a reward for the Speeder Bike raid?
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Geoghs
12 posts Member
May 10, 2024 4:17PM
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LordDirt wrote: »
PtmLords wrote: »
I just started spending money on the game again but this really discourages me now.
Why? I never understand how people expect to be able to do everything in this game the second it drops.
The other events are generally doable with farmable teams. You may choose not to farm those teams instead of others but you can usually get the penultimate box. The final box usually needs R3 (ish).
This event is gated behind R5 toons that aren't farmable and, if past experience is any guide, this will run alternate weeks for the next couple of months.
Thus means a big drop in gear income, so it's people getting upset about "lost" gear, unless you are willing to whale big time.
I spend on the game and am happy to do so for the enjoyment I get, but my spending, which would be considered large by some, is a rounding error for the true whales.
Out of the hundreds of thousands (millions?) of players, only 3k will not be taking a big hit in gear income for the next few months. That's what has got people upset.
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Ferril9909
57 posts Member
May 10, 2024 4:18PM
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LordDirt wrote: »
Why? I never understand how people expect to be able to do everything in this game the second it drops.
Dude... cuz
RedrumCompost
93 posts Member
May 10, 2024 4:35PM
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Ferril9909 wrote: »
LordDirt wrote: »
Why? I never understand how people expect to be able to do everything in this game the second it drops.
Dude... cuz
off topic but I love your St. Bernadus avatar
Geoghs
12 posts Member
May 10, 2024 4:41PM
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herd_nerfer wrote: »
Geoghs wrote: »
Well the current Challenge is a big FU to the player base - lol. At least we can get 2 Omicrons.
The actual numbers:
You have to turn off the 'Top 100 Guilds' filter.
You can still get the T8 crate without the Gungans, so still get the 2 omis.
All that being said, I'm not wild about this - but at least omi income isn't directly affected which is surely what most of us are worried about, right?
I think it's less of an FU to the player base and more like throwing a bone to the folks that went out of their way (and let's be real - out of their pocket in most cases) to get JarJar right away. I'd be a lot more annoyed if this locked us out of the omis.
My bad with the numbers - thank you for the correction
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StarSon
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May 10, 2024 4:50PM
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LastNeuron wrote: »
LordDirt wrote: »
Yes first time, I don't remember a similar character wall (es. last one, Mandalorian, was only 4). Not fun at all, but more time for other games.
They did this for Inquisitors too.
StewartH wrote: »
Mahl_Jhong_501st wrote: »
Not surprising at all considering they have a GC Omi.
Doesn't this defeat the purpose of the Gungan Omi? If I could *theoretically* apply the Gungan omi and get red box using my 4 Gungans (because I dont have JarJar) it may be worth it. This effectively gates all but the highest spenders from even considering this Omi...which again defeats the purpose.
You cannot use the omicron to get this one without JarJar because you need 5 Gungans. So, LOL if anyone without JarJar applied the omicron.
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Notthatguyfrombefore
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May 10, 2024 5:22PM
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StarSon wrote: »
LastNeuron wrote: »
LordDirt wrote: »
Yes first time, I don't remember a similar character wall (es. last one, Mandalorian, was only 4). Not fun at all, but more time for other games.
They did this for Inquisitors too.
This is a bit different; with the inqs you could have 5 units unlocked and playable without doing anything more than the marquees. It was possible to attempt the feats, even if it was unnecessarily hard without GI and would probably end in failure. This is the first time I can think of that they’ve made it this hard to even qualify for a feat. I can’t remember the times people are alluding to concerning BAM. That being said, this is entirely on brand for CG, and shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone.
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Raxle66
1 posts Member
May 10, 2024 5:48PM
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Everyone needs to submit a feedback ticket. CG isn't great, and my expectations are low, but this is next level.
JoryG87
259 posts Member
May 10, 2024 6:07PM
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CG has to do something to reward the big spenders/ crystal savers who got JarJar early. Without some benefit, people won't spent and the game would die.
Even if you don't get the Gungan feat, you are still able to get a box with two omicrons, so I don't see a problem here.
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rickertron
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May 10, 2024 6:10PM
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Geoghs wrote: »
LordDirt wrote: »
PtmLords wrote: »
I just started spending money on the game again but this really discourages me now.
Why? I never understand how people expect to be able to do everything in this game the second it drops.
The other events are generally doable with farmable teams. You may choose not to farm those teams instead of others but you can usually get the penultimate box. The final box usually needs R3 (ish).
This event is gated behind R5 toons that aren't farmable and, if past experience is any guide, this will run alternate weeks for the next couple of months.
Thus means a big drop in gear income, so it's people getting upset about "lost" gear, unless you are willing to whale big time.
I spend on the game and am happy to do so for the enjoyment I get, but my spending, which would be considered large by some, is a rounding error for the true whales.
Out of the hundreds of thousands (millions?) of players, only 3k will not be taking a big hit in gear income for the next few months. That's what has got people upset.
Why even have challenges or any event if the expectation is that one is entitled to max gear all the time, just give us the stuff already? Furthermore, its hardly a hit to anyone's gear income. Missing a few GC red crates in negligible in the long run and barely noticeable in the short run.
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Yrendar
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May 10, 2024 6:12PM
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Pls EA/Lucas/Disney/anyone, fire CG!
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CaesarAM
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May 10, 2024 6:41PM
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It’s a bad look to pretty much back to back tell us they are going to start paywalling GCs (probably once a week I assume based on previous cadence for featuring new factions in GCs) right after telling us that the main DC for the new conquest character team will also be paywalled.
Ragnarok_COTF
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May 10, 2024 6:58PM
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I love dumping on CG as much as the next guy, but I really don't see this as a big deal. Box 8, which has the omis, is super easy to get without Jar Jar. Giving the whales box 10 over box 8 for every GC between now and Jar Jar's return would still be pretty low on the scale of returns from their investment, imo.
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telboy007
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May 10, 2024 7:49PM
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This is on all of us for not whaling on Jar Jar Binks.
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Ragnarøk253
4 posts Member
May 10, 2024 7:52PM
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This was frustrating as hell.
You know games are supposed to be fun, right CG? Bc it VERY obviously seems as though you do not know that.
Deathbringer59
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May 10, 2024 8:28PM
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This isn't there first nor will it be the last. BAM, Tuskens, just take crate 8 and your 2 omnis and call it a day. I'm not paying for the Gungans so I'm not taking max crate and I'll accept that. I'll talk by speaking with my wallet like I usually do when I don't want something or like it
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Hotblack
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May 11, 2024 1:43AM
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A couple of years ago CG, you went through a phase where you did whatever you thought might make money not what the player base wants. One of those things was making it pretty much impossible to enjoy the game unless you pursued CG's specific path and spent a lot of money doing it. You seemed to learn from the feedback and we have had quite a bit of good stuff in the last 12-18 months, maybe longer. It has become a collectible game again with lots of characters and we can all pursue different routes according to taste, spend a bit if we like but not feel there has to be one bloody expensive path whether we like it or not. There have been good ways to allow players with less GP and budgets less than the month's mortgage to catch up and have enough firepower to enjoy the game too.
I am just a bit concerned with the Gungan challenge (like you CANNOT get decent rewards if you dont have 5 ie Jar Jar). And also some of the noise around the next raid and also the new Kenobi and omicron for conquest. Maybe I am just still cynical after last time and maybe these will turn out to be fun CHOICES we can make - or not - and still enjoy the game, gain good rewards etc. If that is so, you can smile at this post and move on.
If not, then please take this as your early shot across the bows! What one person says in public, most of the guild are saying in private.
PS The new website layout sucks, maybe I am just cranky that you changed things just as I was getting used to it. The new PC based client is overall really great. Including the fact that I dont have to go to the webstore anymore to get the better deals given my prior comment!
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Stokat
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May 11, 2024 12:46PM
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Hotblack wrote: »
A couple of years ago CG, you went through a phase where you did whatever you thought might make money not what the player base wants. One of those things was making it pretty much impossible to enjoy the game unless you pursued CG's specific path and spent a lot of money doing it. You seemed to learn from the feedback and we have had quite a bit of good stuff in the last 12-18 months, maybe longer. It has become a collectible game again with lots of characters and we can all pursue different routes according to taste, spend a bit if we like but not feel there has to be one bloody expensive path whether we like it or not. There have been good ways to allow players with less GP and budgets less than the month's mortgage to catch up and have enough firepower to enjoy the game too.
I am just a bit concerned with the Gungan challenge (like you CANNOT get decent rewards if you dont have 5 ie Jar Jar). And also some of the noise around the next raid and also the new Kenobi and omicron for conquest. Maybe I am just still cynical after last time and maybe these will turn out to be fun CHOICES we can make - or not - and still enjoy the game, gain good rewards etc. If that is so, you can smile at this post and move on.
If not, then please take this as your early shot across the bows! What one person says in public, most of the guild are saying in private.
PS The new website layout sucks, maybe I am just cranky that you changed things just as I was getting used to it. The new PC based client is overall really great. Including the fact that I dont have to go to the webstore anymore to get the better deals given my prior comment!
Disagree.
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